Here is what is wrong with Fox and it’s bat crap-crazy base and why Liberals and their ‘media’ will always be better.

After 9/11 there was a theory floating around that it wasn’t the planes that brought the towers down, but instead it was an inside job hatched out by George Bush,Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.  They knew the attack was coming, which is why President Bush was out of the White House and why many others in charge were also out of harms way. They knew the planes wouldn’t be able to do more than burn a few floors but they wanted something spectacular.. a ’shock and awe’ if you will, so they had a demolition team rig the towers to implode and fall. For proof,  9/11 truthers point to WTC build 7.

The reason behind all this was to give Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld a reason to enact the Patriot Act and other Constitutional rights-ending laws and to take us back to Iraq so President Bush could either finish the job his dad left unfinished, or to get vengeance on the man who tried to kill his daddy.  Personally I feel if it was the latter then a secret hit squad would have been used instead, but the former doesn’t make any sense either unless you consider he and his dad had such a crappy relationship that he wanted to ‘best’ his father by actually deposing Saddam and brining freedom to the area. Plausible sure, but the idea that he’d destroy New York city to do it? Crazy.. I know. I’m not saying it’s not crazy. In fact, even in the face of some pretty convincing information, it’s still crazy talk. Sure, some of those question raised should be answered, but the idea that any president would not just allow an attack on the country to take place, but help the death and destruction along to prove he’s better than his daddy is just cuckoo .  I’m more willing to say it was to bilk billions out of the governement for war contracts.. but that’s just another part of this crazy conspiracy.

While the Right has it’s ultra-conservative in Ann Coulter (did you just feel that? it felt like a ghost walked over my grave).. the Left has it’s own ultra-wing in Bill Maher. To me, he’s the liberal liberal. I don’t dislike him, in fact I think his show should be a must see for both sides because even though he’s a liberal’s liberal, you can’t deny his facts. Anyway, like Coulter (there’s that ‘ghost walking on my grave; feeling again) Maher has a few ‘fringe’ leanings so to me, this 9/11 truther stuff would be right up his ally and yet..

even he doesn’t buy into the ‘crazy’. It’s not like he was a fan of George Bush, that would be like saying Coulter secretly yearns to have Jeremiah Wright’s love child. No, Maher just knows crazy-talk when he hears it and  as a comedian, a ‘social commentator‘ who could discuss the theory in jest while at the same time lending it credibility, Maher doesn’t.  But,instead of just ignoring it, he goes after it. When brought onto his show, he even attacks it and tosses it out

That’s right, don’t be gentle with him.. ass-kicking is what’s called for. Why? Because this kind of shit is simply crazy talk that even  Bush-bashing, Peta member,Prius driving,arugula eating, ultra liberals find it too insane to put out there. Maher was not the only ultra-liberal, Noam Chomsky and Matt Tiabbi of Rolling Stone also called it crazy.  Ok, Taibbi called it clinically insane..but the point is, the liberal world said “whooaa, are you fucking crazy?” to people promoting such an extremist idea.  So what does it say when the highest rated, so called ‘News’ network who aren’t invaded by people spreading the crazy, but actually have them on voluntarily, put the crazy  out there and say nothing against it?

And I would not be surprised if the White House said, you know, we might be able to, guess what, do what? Use this crisis to our advantage. Let this crisis get really bad, and then we will step in. We will be able to shut down offshore drilling. We will be able to turn to all these alternate fuels.-MICHAEL BROWN, FORMER FEMA DIRECTOR on NEIL CAVUTO

How did Cavuto respond? Did the “Fair and Balanced” network respond to crazy the same way Bill Maher did and throw it off the set?

...And I would not be surprised if the White House said, you know, we might be able to, guess what, do what? Use this crisis to our advantage. Let this crisis get really bad, and then we will step in. We will be able to shut down offshore drilling. We will be able to turn to all these alternate fuels.

And I think the problem they have right now is, they waited too long.

CAVUTO: So, by constantly referring to this as the BP still, the BP leak, the BP disaster, that there’s a method to that, right?

BROWN: Oh, absolutely.

That’s right sports fans.. nothing. Not a thing. The idea that any president would allow a catastrophe that will affect generations of American to just happen so that he can get his agenda through is the kind of talk you will only see shut down by the liberal .. what do they call it.. ‘lame stream media’. Conservative media on the other hand,will not only put the crazy out there, but they’ll leave it there unquestioned to fester and spread throughout the masses. Don’t kid yourself, it’s out there and it’s spreading. Today, Poltico.com reported that White House Press secretary ‘gave it to’ Fox news for allowing this crazy on their airwaves, after reading the story and watching the video of Gibbs

I took a gander at the comments..

-If bumbling Bobby screams, it’s not so, then we have to watch FOX because we know it”s true.

-I wouldn’t put anything past this regime.With the elections coming this fall and the possibility of a major loss, everything is on the table and everything is political.

-Whatsa matter Goebbels -I mean Gibbs- does the truth hurt? Obama’s incompetence is stunning. Heckuvajob Obama!

-That’s not so far fetched. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. Maybe that’s why he got so mad. ‘thou doth protest too much’ This administration is in bed with the environmental wackos who in turn are in bed with eco terrorists. Makes sense to me.

-LMAO … “Baghdad Bob” Gibbs is one of those who unfairly targeted George Bush for the Katrina ‘errors’ that were really the fault of the inept Mayor of N.O and the Democrat Gov. or LA. Sorry about the oil tragedy, but watching Gibbs whine like a stuck pig is another example of, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND!

yep, Cavuto sure played to his base didn’t he?( Never mind the fact that as a “News” channel, it shouldn’t have a base.) This goes on for 200+ consecutive replies.  No rebuttal and  no sanity it’s just a giant orgy of crazy hate.

My favorite of course is the “what goes around comes around” argument because that has been the feeling since election night. I’ve said it before, there is a section of the population that thought immediately after learning they had a new President, “Let’s see how you like it”. From that moment on they have stood in opposition of everything, while complaining about things that don’t have any basis in reality. “What goes around!” is the underlying motto behind every single attack against this President. The funny thing is, this President is a lot more “George Bush” than liberals expected and is a lot more passive and conservative than they’d hoped. Had the raving loons at Fox news and those out there living by the “Let’s see how you like it” agenda only argued valid points on policy instead of birth certificates,teleprompters,czars and socialism.. there would have had more liberals in their corner than they’d know what to do with. Instead, the fringe right has taken over the conservative media and the nations attention. It’s not that a majority of the nation believes in what the fringe is spouting, it’s more of a .. you can’t look away from the horror of that car accident.. type problem. But lost in this shuffle are the moderates who by their silence give their consent. Well that’s their problem to work out. John McCain has found a way, and that’s to go back on everything he’s ever done just to prove his purity. Other GOP members are throwing their own personal relationships out the window for proof of purity and party loyalty, and they are to admitting it.  Like I said,  the bridges they are burning are their own problems to fix when the attention shifts away from the crazy. For now, the ‘tin-foil hats’ have taken over and while you would expect a politician to go whichever way will get him elected, for a so called “News” channel to once again wear theirs proudly, truly is the downfall of journalism. Especially when the only place real people are left to get real news is from the real comedians.

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Freshman Republican Lynn Jenkins said: “Republicans are struggling right now to find the great white hope. I suggest to any of you who are concerned about that, who are Republican, there are some great young Republican minds in Washington.”

She then went on to name a fistful of white Republicans. I mean.. really?

Today,I came across a blog and while I agree that what Congresswoman Jenkins said is no great crime I disagree with the bloggers reason and that of the Congresswoman on why it’s not a big deal.

Ms Tucker cuts the Congresswoman some slack because she doesn’t believe the Congresswoman understood the racial undertones of the phrase. This is also the Congresswoman’s excuse, she didn’t know what she was saying and what it meant.

I agree with this, I do not think Congresswoman Lynn Jenkins knew about the black heavy weight boxer from the early part of the 1900’s named Jack Johnson who was unstoppable, and thus had boxing enthusiasts looking for the “Great White Hope” to beat him.  There is no doubt in my mind that this congresswoman was oblivious to the origin of  reference she was quoting. But you can’t tell me she didn’t know what she was saying,if only because she used it correctly.  No, she didn’t know the origin of the phrase, but that doesn’t excuse what she said.

I do not believe she just chose her words wrong. Because in order for me to believe that.. I would have to believe that Congresswoman Jenkins  didn’t realize that the President was black when she was saying the Republicans need a “White” Hope to beat him.. It’s possible she didn’t know I guess, maybe they don’t get the news out there in Kansas?

Regardless, it really isn’t a crime and  just like we let off Mayor Dean Grose off the hook for his email because there was no great crime  there either.. (he.. uh.. he didn’t know that picture of  a watermelon patch outside the White House could be seen as racist.. because he was unaware of the racial stereotype that black people liked watermelons) … we will let Congresswoman Lynn Jenkins off the hook.  We will give her, Mayor Grose, the Tennessee  Republican legislative aide who sent the email of all the President’s pictures with President Obama’s just a black box and some eyes, to the ‘wrong people’ (we won’t ask her who the ‘right’ people were) and even  the GOP activist and former chairman of his state’s elections commission, Rusty DePass who said when he heard there was a gorilla on the loose  that it was probably one of Michelle Obama’s ancestors …  we will give them all the benefit of the doubt that they aren’t really racist for what they said or did. No, they’re not racists.. they’re just fucking idiots and that’s why it’s no great crime. We can’t control the idiots in our society, if we could Glenn Beck would be living on a retard farm weaving baskets instead of infecting other idiots with his stupidity. Stupid isn’t illegal (there’s a Sara Palin joke in there somewhere) so the only thing we can do is let them feel our stare, our stare that says.. “You know what you meant,and more importantly we know what you meant. But instead of getting to actually stand behind it, now we’re going to make you prove you’re a fucking idiot by saying … ‘I didn’t know’  and then we’re going to laugh at how stupid you really are.”

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In another discussion with Lil Mike, I’ve come to realize that I just talk to freaking much-LOL.. But seriously, it struck me that if he doesn’t understand.. then maybe others don’t see the big deal either, and that scares me. If we could for once.. just once take the political party out of the equation and base our verdict on the facts, I don’t think any of us would see things differently..  But we can’t take the (R) and the (D) out of the equation because then our entire world crumbles when we find out we’ve been duped and in the end supported a lie. Where we should be angry at the one who made us into the fool, we are angry at ourselves and not many of us like the idea that we were taken for a ride. It’s why ponzie schemes work so well.. Who wants to admit that they really believed the 40% return they were promised was real and legal..

I wrote a blog the other day

The special powers an (R) next to your name gives you…

In it, I talk about the mess we find ourselves in today, the news that the Investigators General found that the White House inserted it’s own wording into a threat assessment from the CIA and then used that paragraph to enact an unconstitutional doctrine..

To explain it more would take to much space and this reply isn’t about the paragraph as much as it’s about how that deceitful act is more detrimental to the principals this country was build on.. Life,Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness then anything we’ve seen so far.

Once again, my reply to Mike..

“That[inserting of the paragraph] opens a whole can of worms, but the actual paragraph, I don’t find a lie or contraversal. Do you? How would that change anything?”

The easiest 1st.. How does it change anything? If the White House is allowed to make up what they want, to get what they want.. how does that NOT change anything?  Please explain how you support any President doing this? Because I think you are slowly realizing that just because we had an (R) President for awhile, doesn’t mean we will always have an (R) president, we will eventually get a (D) and you can’t be ok with allowing this to continue when a (D) has the precedent..

But more than that… where do you draw the line?  The President can make up what he wants for security reasons that hamper constitutional rights… he can hold false PC hearings that tell us the ‘news’ he wants us to hear… he can use ‘plants’ to steer the topics of real PC’s to the direction he wants..   where do you draw the line? You don’t like the MSM being liberal, but you’re ok with the complete fabrication coming from your oval office?

Now the other part of your justification…that you don’t find it a lie… How do you know this paragraph is true? Because  it fits in with your opinion?

Had it been true (or a true threat) the CIA would have put it in there right? But they didn’t find anything like that so, the White House made it up.. at that time atleast, you were made to believe a falsehood that the Oval office told you.. and worse than that.. that falsehood was then used to convince you the NSA program (and so many others just because of the butterfly effect-) was needed, because that statement saying it was needed, was also inserted falsely..

In this instant, I won’t make your head swim at how much of a can of worms it is because I don’t think you would ever acknowledge it.. but in this instant, you..we were hoodwinked.

Bush/Cheney wanted the NSA program.. we’ll leave off the ulterior motives for that right now and just stick to that.. They wanted it and asked the CIA to give them a reason.. The CIA did what it was supposed to do, it investigated and put together a threat assessment.But, it wasn’t threatening enough to get Bush/Cheney what they wanted so they made up their own assessment and then used what they made up to bring to Congress and the American ppl to get that NSA program..

I really can’t believe you don’t see the implications of this. I don’t care whats going on in the world.. a President of the United States cannot make up a story, attach the CIA’s name to that story… and then steal rights from the citizens of the country because of that story.. That’s not what this country is build upon!

I won’t get into the problems this creates for the CIA… but take a minute and think about that…

Let’s look at the broad implications.. If, as you say, the paragraph was true then how can anything from the CIA ever be useful again? If they can’t get the threat right,  and it takes someone from the White House..(and we both know there might be 2 people in the White House who would know as much as the CIA on any given intelligence assessments)..but if it takes someone from the White House to see the real threats and tell people about it, then how do we believe anything from our intelligence division again? How can we trust their competence?

Ask yourself this, if it was so true, why didn’t they(the White House) put that paragraph out there themselves? Why did they attach it to  the CIA’s briefing. They had to have some intelligence from somewhere saying these things right? So why did they have to put it in a CIA memo? Why didn’t they make the intelligence division who gave them  the information, put out their own memo? Who was that intelligence division anyway and why are they to be believed over the CIA?

Or did the White House just make it up?

You can’t ignore those scenarios because they are the only two that exist.

Let’s go farther..
You will admit that the NSA program is a massive invasion of privacy.. one that, in your opinion is needed though..-yes?  Well, now you’ve just been told that the CIA did not find  reason enough for it and  the President made up a reason on his own and stole privacy from the American people.. your reason for it was made up! You may have felt there was a good reason, you may have been happy that the CIA report backed you up.. but the truth is, it didn’t!  I may love the idea that a chocolate diet helps me lose weight, but I can’t write my own little paragraph and insert it into Jenny Craig’s website saying it..

Bring this down to an easier level. You’ve been accused of killing someone. The local PD gets involved and investigates you, sure you look guilty and you probably did do it, but while everything looks bad against you, there really isn’t much to report. At an internal briefing on the status of your case the DA says.. Ok, well I want this guy wire-tapped.. The cops say, “well..we do too, but we can’t find a reason for it” .. So the DA decides to write a paragraph that does implicate you, it’s not  based on anyting he’s been told-he just makes it up on the spot and he hands it to the cops and says.. “Now go get your wire-tap“. The cops go to a judge and say “Judge, read this paragraph right here, that’s why we need this wire-tap” and the judge says “Ok”..

Is this legal? and more than that..is that what you are saying you are happy to go along with in this country..

Is this what you want your President to do and will you ignore it now that you know what he did?

Is this the level of power you wish to give to the already most power office in the world?

If you want to allow a President and Vice President to arbitrarily make up their own reasons to do things that are unconstitutional…then why are you fighting government run health care.. why are you fighting government   run anything?

You didn’t’ serve this country for the last 25 years to allow your president to make up a fantasy to get something he wanted..did you?

I know this is difficult.. because to admit this opens a can of worms that could devour a country. You wouldn’t believe a liar who lied to you, or a thief who stole from you in your personal life.. but to believe this?  Wouldn’t this alone make you question.. What else did they do this on?

and I think that is why you will ignore this as a problem, because the  answer to that.. is something you don’t want to know..

Let’s face it, larger picture is extremely  frightening.How many other times did this happen? Besides just the NSA program, what other things did the White House insert it’s own wording into and then use that wording to get their way on… Is it possible it’s all been a lie or based on a lie? and what do we do about it? To investigate further might tell us the scariest truth we’ve ever dreamed up.. but to ignore it–well, that blesses every President from now until we resemble Russia Circa Stalin, which on that path, would be in our lifetime.

This can’t be what you and thousands of others like you served their country for..your oath didn’t say to protect the President when he lies to get his way-even if you agree with that way… did it?

It always seems like there is something in an (R) and (D) psyche that is almost like they feel if they acknowledge this.. like a house of cards, the whole thing will crumble. But if that house of cards is an illusion built on a lie, why would you want it to stand in the 1st place?

Where is your anger over what was done in your name?

Where is the line? Would it be OK for the Oval Office to make up a threat assessment with the intelligence community’s name on it, that says we must nuke a rival country and then go out on every “Meet the Press” tv show that will have them and promote this insertion?

Where does your tolerance end?

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I’m sitting here refreshing Drudge and Cnn while simultaneously flipping through all the headline news shows… and no hoopla!

You’d think with months of screaming, ranting,crying, and those  tea-parties, someone would have mentioned that we are now  ‘less Socialistic’ …

If I could stomach listening to Boss Limbaugh, I would see if he was sweating and dancing to the tune of Beck’s  “Loser”. Since President Obama has most certainly failed in his attempt to turn the USA into the county of the New National Socialist Party,  with his ingenious take over of the banks and car companies.. whilst driving the rest of the country into the shittier by stealing our wealth and spreading it amongst the elites…

but nope, nothing.. instead I get the news from my favorite ‘Mo…

Chrysler Financial repays $1.5

bln US gov’t loans

DETROIT, July 14 (Reuters) – Chrysler Financial said on Tuesday it has paid off $1.5 billion in loans it had received from the U.S. Department of Treasury in January to fund vehicle loans and incentive programs for Chrysler consumers…

BB&T repays TARP money

Seven months after it accepted $3.1 billion from the federal government, BB&T Corp. – a longtime opponent of big government – repaid the money with interest Wednesday.

$93 million in profit was made off that investment.. Not too shabby in my opinion.

FirstMerit repaying TARP

loan this month

An Ohio bank with more than a dozen branches in the region announced plans this week to repay the federal government’s more than $125 million investment under the Capital Purchase Program.

In fact, if it had not been for the ‘mo..and the 2nd story I never would have known that American Express, Bank of New York Mellon, Capital One, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Northern Trust, State Street and U.S. Bancorp also announced that they had repaid their loans from TARP, or the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

I should be surprised that I haven’t heard anything from the biased and untrue liberal MSM.. right?

Then again, if the media really was a ‘liberal slanted monster’ this would be on every headline news crawler and program just to rub it in to the faces of the Chicken Littles who were screaming that we were being taken over by our government…ironically while ignoring that were already  ‘taken over’ by our government..

I guess they are moving on to make more accusation about the Democrats evil attempt to bring socialism to the shores of the country by giving every baby born, house cleaner working, and any one else who likes to choose things for themselves instead of having someone else choose for them, that deplorable option of…. Health Care. So like everything else we’ve seen ignored in the last week.. Chrysler’s repayment will go unnoticed because it’s easier to keep throwing the kitchen sink of accusations than it is to actually give it a minute to see if it just might work.. It’s more patriotic to wish failure for the Government attempt to stop the slide into another depression era than it is to say “OK, that was my bad.. Carry on”.

Anyway, thank you for the $93 million in profit BB&T.. it was a pleasure doing business with you.. Come again soon.

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ekg here…what you’re about to read is  what lil Mike and I do, this is where we are in our comfort zone and where we excel. It’s long, it’s tedious, but the final result is an all out information explosive.. We have done this kind of exchange for years on muchedumbre.com. When we started ‘blogging’, we forgot that which made us great… the quote/reply debate, because it’s hard to get into that sort of debate in a ‘blog-comment’ section..

well, not anymore…

Here is my rebuttal to Lil Mike’s

Public Option? -> Only Option

Feel free to join in the debate in the comment sections.

..

” But one thing is clear, if it’s going to be reform in any way that Obama and the far left of the Democratic Party care about, it’s got to have the “Public Option.”  Right now the administration is having it both ways.  On the one hand it’s saying that it has no intention of driving private insurers out of business, but on the other hand, reassuring Congressional Democrats that the President is still committed to having a public option as part of his vision of health care reform.

Why the Public Option?  The formal answer was included in Obama’s letter to Senators Kennedy and Baucus:

“I strongly believe that Americans should have the choice of a public health insurance option operating alongside private plans. This will give them a better range of choices, make the health care market more competitive, and keep insurance companies honest.”

Competition?  There are approximately 1300 health insurance providers in the US.  Really, will 1301 really make the difference and suddenly lead to “a better range of choices, make the health care market more competitive, and keep insurance companies honest?”  That’s all it would take, just one more provider?  The idea is so ridiculous that you would have to be a White House journalist to buy it.”

Ok, will one more provider really make a difference? Absofuckinglutley!  Yes, 1300 companies offering the same shitty product would actually have to offer a better option if a bigger and better player came on to the scene. Your debate isn’t whether the Government can offer a product that will make the other companies provide a better choice, your argument is… Should the Government offer that product at all.. So let’s not play games with throwing in all this other stuff..

“What makes the public option the crown jewel of any health care reform plan?  It’s the camel’s nose under the tent for single payer government healthcare.  No, this isn’t just Republican scare-mongering.  I can hardly imagine any other conclusion for the insistence on a government healthcare plan.  And it’s easy to see how it would happen.  The logic is this:  One of the keys of health care reform is an individual mandate, but you can’t very well have one if people cannot afford to buy health insurance, so you have to provide an option for people too poor to pay.  Enter the public option.  An analysis of several public option scenarios shows that premiums could be 30 to 40 percent less than comparable private plans.  That of course hinges on the government paying reimbursement rates comparable to Medicare, which are 70-80 percent of what private insurers pay.”

I read your Lewin Group PDF analysis it was interesting.. until I Googled them and found out that..

Lewin Group is) part of Ingenix, which is owned by United Healthcare Group, the insurance behemoth that has been buying up insurance companies left and right, expanding its reach into just about every segment of the health-insurance market. Its flagship, UnitedHealthcare, helps make it the largest health insurer in the country. It’s a safe bet that United is not too keen on a public plan that might shrink its business.

Now I don’t find them credible in this discussion..Sorry about that but seriously, you wouldn’t allow me to use Rahm’s notes as actual unbiased data would you?But let’s address this ‘fear-mongering’ warpath scream of “Single Payer Healthcare-Oh My”..  Why is it that every time a Democrat tries to do anything you Pub’s start screaming ‘Government take-over!” “Government Control” “States Right!” and“Give me Liberty” , when after 8 years of massive Government abuse, Lenin-ish intrustion, insane Government spending,  and obscene Government entitlements there was nothing but the sound-bite of “If you’re not with the President, you are with the terrorists” to anyone who raised a fart of a question?

But now, Oh My God! We’re killing health care…!! We’re taxing people too much..!! Businesses will crumble..!!

really?

Did you know that Bush’s medicare proposal was…

…aimed to inject market forces into Medicare by encouraging beneficiaries to enroll in government-subsidized private health plans that would compete directly with the traditional government-run, fee-for-service program. The drug benefit would be the chief inducement for seniors to make the switch to private plans.

Maybe I missed it, but were there Fox News sponsored Tea-parties for that?

Something else I just found out (by the way, this is why Mike and I do this so well… during our hunt for facts we often find other facts that come in handy in other debates) “The Patriot Act and Department of Homeland Security was the brainchild of one William Jefferson Clinton.” Sure the website is a little nutty and over the top in it’s ‘doomsday’ opinions, and in all seriousness I shouldn’t link it because you will use it against me, but what the hell.. it pretty much spells out everything I’m saying about what the Pubs were happy to do with a Pub leader and shit themselves when it’s a Democrat doing the same thing. Best of all, it does it with the same chicken-little hyperbole you guys are using now..

In short, Bush’s encouragement to beneficiaries to enroll out of their private plans and into the government plan didn’t bring about “Single-Payer Storm troopers” and neither will President Obama’s. But if… if it did, once again you can thank Bush for that ummm…camel nose under the tent… since he started the ball rolling…

Of course I loathe the ‘It’s Bush’s fault” argument.. It was fun for a few years there, but now it’s just old,crusty and only garners a slight roll of the eyes… The problem is, there are just so many fucking things that are his fault and you Pubs are just now finding that out because Obama is following in his footsteps on alot of them. So as loathsome as it is to say.. it’s still applicable.

Moving on…

“So one of the ways the Obama plan controls costs is just by paying the doctors and hospitals less.  I’m sure that will make a great incentive for people to go into the medical field.  And who wouldn’t want to be taxed to subsidize their competitor?”

President Obama will pay doctors less and therefore who would ever go into the med field.. An addendum to this argument is the.. “we will become a 3rd world health care system because there will be no incentives (money) for research”… OK 1st, we already are below many 3rd world countries when it comes to our health care and as for the rest? Well,  I can think of one disease that if it wasn’t for the French, not only would we still be calling it GRID, who knows when someone would have been able to isolate the AIDS retrovirus. Hell, it was a German who discovered that HPV was the leading cause in cervical cancer…

As for being paid less? When did we lose that ‘country doctor’ mentality of people becoming a doctor to help people? Was it around the same time insurance companies first started popping up? I’d really love to see a study on the correlation of the emergence of insurance companies and their control and doctors treating people less because it’s what they dream of doing and more to try and become a million by the time they are 30.

In short, I don’t know what President Obama’s plans on the pay scale for doctors and hospitals is. I know that right now we spend more money on administration costs than just about anything else. Medicare proves that you only need to spend 2% on admin costs and still function admirably.. $230 billion a year is spent in California alone on administration costs, Obama’s plan cost less than 1/2 that for the entire country.. so why those  massive saving would not trickle down throughout the system is beyond me.  To me, it would seem that if $25 from every $100 doctor visit that went to insurance administration now, was cut to $2, the doctor would be seeing a hell of alot better of a return.

“First, the same analysis shows that depending on the premium rate for the public option, 119 million people could lose their private health insurance…If the public plan has lower premiums, what do they care what rate their doctor gets paid at?  Others would find themselves dumped.  Why would companies want the expense of maintaining their own health insurance coverage when a public plan can offer lower premiums?”

I addressed this somewhat above when I brought Bush’s plan to get people off the private rolls and onto the public ones  to your attention already, but that’s not my argument against it, a bad plan is a bad plan no matter who the President is, something the Republican  religion doesn’t like to admit..My argument is this… I believe you are wrong.. those insurance companies will be forced to compete with the new plan.. they will have to offer something else, whether it be a lower premium or more coverage or an annual trip to Bermuda..whatever.. I mean do you seriously think they’ll just keel over and die? Hell no, they’ll find something that their competitor doesn’t have and offer it..

Back in the 90’s I was fired for being pregnant, lost my insurance(not that I had prenatal anyway), and was forced to go on Medicaid. HMO’s were exploding at that time and you were forced to pick either an HMO or straight medicaid. There was many HMO’s to chose from  and they all pretty much offered the same plans as each other and medicaid but since there was competition, the HMO’s decided to offer other incentives to get people to enroll in their plan. It was piddly shit like  children vitamins each month with this one, free contacts with that one, free vitamins,contacts and bubble gum with the other..(ok, not really on the bubble gum.. but you get the point).. the catch was you had to use their doctors,their hospitals and their pharmacies. Or you could stick with medicaid and go with pretty much whoever you wanted. I liked my doctor and she took medicaid so I chose that path. So when you tell me that a government sponsored plan will not only force people out of their private plan but will force private plans to close up shop and move away.. I laugh! These companies want to succeed today just as much as they want to succeed tomorrow and they will find a way to entice employers to keep paying them.. Whether that be free vitamins or a free trip to Bora-Bora for the employer who signs up the most employees onto their plan.Most, if not all, will adapt and  survive… and those that don’t? Well, you don’t mind when they fall in a full capitalistic society do you?

So why is a Public plan the only option? Because without it there is no change.. With it there is a crack in the monopoly-like hold insurance companies have on this country and it’s leaders. They have never had to worry about regulation and competition before and now they are throwing out all the buzz words that make  conservative hard.. “Socialism”..”Government sponsored”..”Government entitlement”… and to that I say Pshaw! Look what the debate has already done for health care… before a person was actually denied  treatment for her cancer because her insurance company said an outbreak of pimples in her past constituted a ‘pre-existing conditions’.Pimples!  But now all of a sudden insurance companies are screaming that sure,  they can get rid of the pre-existing conditions clause. The debate alone is forcing other companies to offer more benefits at a lower cost to women in some states.. The debate alone is changing health care for the better.. If the debate is cleaning up health care and the conglomerate-do-as-they-please  hold on health care that the insurance companies have.. then I am encouraged as to what an actual Public Plan will be able to do.

So, the cost factor? One state already pays 1 and 1/2 times more for just the administrative costs than the public plan for an entire country.

The reduction of doctor’s fee and hospital costs? The savings from the decrease in administration costs should increase what the medical providers see.

The loss of research and cutting edge medicine? You walk into the  Pasteur Institute and tell them they’re a 2nd tier institute.

Socialism? Please.. George Socialist Bush!

The loss of a free market? No, more like the opening of a closed market and forcing it to become competitive to survive..

Yes… Public Option? is the only Option

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Say what you will.. but I love having ‘cool’ in the white house..

Pro skateboarder takes a glide

through White House

WASHINGTON – Hey, kids, don’t try this at home. Professional skateboarder Tony Hawk on Friday took a brief ride at the White House as part of a Father’s Day celebration.

Hawk, 41, skated in the grand foyer and the nearby Old Executive Office Building, with the permission of White House officials.

STORY HERE…

It’s time to leave David Letterman alone. Seriously, I’m a woman and a mother of 2 girls.. the joke wasn’t that bad and I’ve seen worse. The only problem with the joke was who it was about. Dave made a mistake because he underestimated the insatiability  of a needy ego.

Besides, haven’t you heard.. the joke was President Obama’s fault.

Sarah Palin doesn’t have a problem exploiting  children for her political gain, she only has a problem when someone else (insert ‘liberals’)  brings attention to them. I can understand not wanting your children involved, but at what point are you at fault for your children being the butt of late-night comic jokes?

“This is the enduring legacy of the Obama campaign. I’m not saying this to be inflammatory, I blame Barack Obama because he allowed his surrogates in the media and Hollywood and everyone else on the left to do this dirty talking for him.”

When you parade your pregnant  underage daughter out on stage with her paramour?

When you imply an adult male would be dangerous around a child?

When you turn an obvious joke about one daughter into a a joke about the unknown daughter and try to make into political fodder just to get your name out there again?

I keep hearing “You don’t see the Obama children being ridiculed this way” you’re right, you don’t but why is that? Is it their ages? 10 and 7? Or is it that they aren’t paraded out in view of the press at the drop of a hat? When Brian Williams did his inside look at the White House, it would have been completely natural to include Sasha and Malia in his program, hell he even had a minute with the dog  so a minute with the 1st children would have been a natural flow. But when he asked, Brian Williams was politely denied an interview with them.

Governor Palin on the other hand, brings her children up to stage with her during her rallies even when they are not invited, takes them with her while she’s stumping, schmoozing, or just hanging out at a baseball game. ..not too mention her oldest daughter goes out and speaks for abstinence only.. There is nothing wrong with any of this, let me be clear on that.. There is nothing wrong with any of this.. Sarah is a working mother so her kids come with her wherever she goes and you know that when you ask her to speak for you. The problem is, you can’t push your kids out in the spotlight and then ‘dare’ people to not talk about them.

There’s a fine line between doing it the Obama way and doing it the Palin way..One of main things that separate the two are their actions after something is mentioned by the press. Sarah acts like a wounded animal and then takes it 5 steps too far. Her insinuation  that David Letterman couldn’t be trusted with a 14 year old girl is proof of that. By saying something so inflammatory she is forcing people to take sides and respond, which is what her dwindling-star ego wants. The more ‘hurt’ and ‘outraged’ she can pretend to be, the more air-time she can be given. The end result for her is the spotlight and she really doesn’t care how she gets there.

On the other hand, the Obama’s just flatly deny the press entrance into their children’s  lives. It’s just that simple.

“One awkward moment, though, during the game.Maybe you heard about it, maybe you saw it on one of the highlight reels, one awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game. During the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.” –David Letterman

David Letterman may have made an off-color joke about a young adult, but it takes a special kind of deprived ego to turn the joke into a pedophilia-like act against your young daughter.

Does anyone else see the pattern emerging? Yes, Letterman’s joke was bad, Yes the President shouldn’t have joked about bowling and the Special Olympics, but if these ‘real’ and relatively ‘ minor’ jokes are so inflammatory, degrading,disgusting and worthy of protest.. then where is the outrage,protests,phone calls demanding one be fired when people make jokes racial jokes with dead monkeys or a gorillas being a part of Michelle Obama’s ancestry? Where is Governor Palin on that joke? Where is her outrage and demands for a more ‘moral’ dialog for this country?

Sarah Palin is the one who keeps milking this cow and it’s time to give her the anonymity she’s asking for and just remove her name or the names of her children from our vernacular. I shouldn’t know the name of her 14 year old daughter and had her mother not been so hungry for attention, I never would have. David Letterman isn’t the one who made Willow Palin a household name and an internet ’search’ topic.. Her mother did.

David Letterman has explained the joke and apologized at the cost of looking like he’s caving under the pressure.. If  Gov. Palin  really was upset she would end it now while she has the upper hand… But only time will tell if she does take the high road. One thing I know for sure, to make sure she keeps herself in the public eye, she will take every advantage she can to remind us about sex acts with minor children, because if we are talking about that, we won’t be talking about her shrinking  popularity, her bridges to nowhere, or her socialist state that spreads the wealth of the oil business to  the people who live in the state..No, the issue she wants us focused on is her family who we are not allowed to comment on..

***UPDATE***

Palin accepts Letterman’s apology..

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